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		<title>By: Orchis Tower &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;When scarcity is the norm, complexity seems valuable.&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orchis Tower &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;When scarcity is the norm, complexity seems valuable.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] next contributor to the discussion is a former IDG employee who dryly notices that the chinese IDG websites &#8220;were kicking ass in terms of traffic and money and not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Design Perspectives from East Asia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Design Perspectives from East Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It turns out a lot of other people are thinking the same thing. Different theories for why there is this marked difference are abundant, ranging from the influence of Buddhist principles whereby &#8220;strong and rich colour, density, and opulent presentation symbolize happiness and wealth&#8221;, otherwise termed the &#8216;aesthetics of abundance&#8217;, to different advertising models and the way in which people read/scan different languages. It seems no one has a definitive answer which means there&#8217;s definitely room for research here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It turns out a lot of other people are thinking the same thing. Different theories for why there is this marked difference are abundant, ranging from the influence of Buddhist principles whereby &#8220;strong and rich colour, density, and opulent presentation symbolize happiness and wealth&#8221;, otherwise termed the &#8216;aesthetics of abundance&#8217;, to different advertising models and the way in which people read/scan different languages. It seems no one has a definitive answer which means there&#8217;s definitely room for research here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Melcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Melcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post!  I didn&#039;t know you had written this when I wrote about the same issue: http://www.melcherruwart.com/2008/05/26/why-do-most-chinese-sites-look-like-crap/.  I&#039;d love to find more poeple who are interested in this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post!  I didn&#8217;t know you had written this when I wrote about the same issue: <a href="http://www.melcherruwart.com/2008/05/26/why-do-most-chinese-sites-look-like-crap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.melcherruwart.com/2008/05/26/why-do-most-chinese-sites-look-like-crap/</a>.  I&#8217;d love to find more poeple who are interested in this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Stuff that Matters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Website design in China</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Stuff that Matters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Website design in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After mentioning this to a friend, she gave me links to a few blogposts (here, and here) that referenced an academic study by Hans-JÃ¼rgen Bucher about how Chinese use the internet, and whether there is a &#8220;Chinese Internet&#8221;. He talks briefly about the discourse around the internet within China, how it is mostly used for fun (gaming, chatting) and how it is often mentioned as a menace to the young - the new opium (certainly I remember reading stories in the newspaper when I lived there, about girls who traveled to another city to meet their online love, and were abused, or of people spending forty hours straight in internet cafes, etc). He also looks at the design aesthetics, how Chinese both have the concept of &#8220;aesthetics of abundance&#8221; and &#8220;aesthetics of emptiness&#8221;: In Chinese culture we can find two different kinds of aesthetical systems: the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ and the â€œaesthetics of emptinessâ€ (see Pohl 2004). Websites in China are usually designed along the principles of the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ which refers to the Chinese popular culture and what can be seen in New Years pictures, calendars or paintings on dishes. The â€œaesthetics of emptinessâ€ is part of the Chinese high culture and heavily influence by Zen and Chan Buddhism. The principles of this kind of aesthetics did not influence web design up to now in a significant way. The attractiveness of the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ not only relies on its integration into popular culture but also on its symbolic meanings: strong and rich colour, density, and opulent presentation symbolize happiness and wealth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After mentioning this to a friend, she gave me links to a few blogposts (here, and here) that referenced an academic study by Hans-JÃ¼rgen Bucher about how Chinese use the internet, and whether there is a &#8220;Chinese Internet&#8221;. He talks briefly about the discourse around the internet within China, how it is mostly used for fun (gaming, chatting) and how it is often mentioned as a menace to the young &#8211; the new opium (certainly I remember reading stories in the newspaper when I lived there, about girls who traveled to another city to meet their online love, and were abused, or of people spending forty hours straight in internet cafes, etc). He also looks at the design aesthetics, how Chinese both have the concept of &#8220;aesthetics of abundance&#8221; and &#8220;aesthetics of emptiness&#8221;: In Chinese culture we can find two different kinds of aesthetical systems: the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ and the â€œaesthetics of emptinessâ€ (see Pohl 2004). Websites in China are usually designed along the principles of the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ which refers to the Chinese popular culture and what can be seen in New Years pictures, calendars or paintings on dishes. The â€œaesthetics of emptinessâ€ is part of the Chinese high culture and heavily influence by Zen and Chan Buddhism. The principles of this kind of aesthetics did not influence web design up to now in a significant way. The attractiveness of the â€œaesthetics of abundanceâ€ not only relies on its integration into popular culture but also on its symbolic meanings: strong and rich colour, density, and opulent presentation symbolize happiness and wealth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Patnode</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene Patnode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite your self-proclaimed relative unfamiliarity with China, your comments are spot on.

Quick note about iPods: despite the fact that they are uncommon (probably due to cost), iPods are, like in the US, quite the status symbol. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an exaggeration to say that any familiarity that the Chinese have with the Apple brand (called Pingguo here... literally “Apple&quot;) stems from the iPod as I have seen scant few Apple computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite your self-proclaimed relative unfamiliarity with China, your comments are spot on.</p>
<p>Quick note about iPods: despite the fact that they are uncommon (probably due to cost), iPods are, like in the US, quite the status symbol. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an exaggeration to say that any familiarity that the Chinese have with the Apple brand (called Pingguo here&#8230; literally “Apple&#8221;) stems from the iPod as I have seen scant few Apple computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan deFuca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan deFuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 06:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mein Gott! herr Churbucky, this is an incredible post.
You must be exhauted, Dave, but your observational and logic powers are as great as ever.
Thanks for the great posts on China. i&#039;ve learned a lot.
Best
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mein Gott! herr Churbucky, this is an incredible post.<br />
You must be exhauted, Dave, but your observational and logic powers are as great as ever.<br />
Thanks for the great posts on China. i&#8217;ve learned a lot.<br />
Best<br />
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